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Created On 2/7/16 2:27 AM by ayelet_hashachar


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ayelet_hashachar
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2/7/16 2:27 AM
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I can't help but say this, it has been burning inside of me for quite some time. There is a HUGE problem with stigma in the frum community, and it infuriates me.

Since when is somebody who takes "medication" made to feel ashamed for something they did not choose and cannot control?

Since when is it acceptable to be so medayek in some areas of halacha, but when it comes to ben adam lechaveiro suddenly it becomes okay to gossip and self-righteously "warn" others against people who "take medication?" State that nobody would want them? View them as different, inferior? Doesn't it say that the Torah was given to bnei adam, human beings, which means that middos is a prerequisite for the Mitzvos in the Torah?

These are not just working of my imagination. These are things I have witnessed.

If this is what frumkeit stands for- stigmatizing others- then I don't want to be a part of it.


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2/7/16 5:57 PM
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(((HUGS))))It's horrible when people look at us as broken-we need to be fixed? They are just afraid that they or some family member will get an MI so they look at us as OTHERS. We are different and if they think this way, they feel good about themselves.
Sharing your pain and frustration!
 
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2/8/16 12:36 AM
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Sorry Ayelet! The frum people i hang around are open to medication. I worked in a frum office my boss and most of my co workers were on medication. A few of my friends are on medication.

Some people still see it as a no no but more and miter I'm seeing it become more acceptable..

Your pain is real i feel for you! I've been in similar situations...
It's gonna take more time for the stigma to fully subside..
 
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2/10/16 11:47 PM
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Wow thanks guys for the support.

And I just have to get out one more thing...it makes me even more furious when ppl say "you know why there's this problem? because the parents do such a good job of hiding it." Well why shouldn't they hide it, if this is how ppl treat them?!? Besides, it's really nobody's business what diagnosis someone has unless it affects them.


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8/5/16 1:33 AM
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And the worst part to me is that for anyone who has ever opened up any of the sfarim on lashon hara there are clear halachos of what is allowed to be said, to whom, and who is allowed to say it.
I've learned Purity of Speech and it has a whole part about shidduchim where it goes through the types of questions (financial, medical, personality) and explains when and where the halachos of lashon hara require someone to give over what they know, and when it is not allowed.

And truthfully, I think those of us on medication have done a lot by doing our part in remaining functional members of society when there are many people who have all different sorts of mental issues and should be on medication and are not taking care of it, causing pain to many family members.


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