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I am looking for a good psychiatrist(pharmacologist) in NYC for bipolar disorder. Someone who really desires to help a patient and not in order to make money,caring, has>5 years of treating bipolar, and charges reasonably as i don't have insurance and can't afford large fees. I would appreciate responses from everyone who knows of such a pharmacologist . Thanks.
 
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I know an EXCELENT psychyatrist in the 5 towns (which is Just outside NY city) Her name is Dr. Spitzer.


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hi, i don't know if you are ever in the lower merion/ bryn mawr area of philly (pennsylvania), but if you ever are, there is a great firm called gruenberg and summers. dr. gruenberg is great, and i highly recommend him for the medication aspect, though i think dr. summers is a little better at the therapy part: dr. gruenberg tends to overthink/ overanylize a bit, and focus a bit too much on details versus the big picture. and it goes with out saying, big doctors, big egos. sorry, had to put that in. but these docs charge about $300.00 an hour. hey, they're really good, but you get what you pay for.

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Hi,
Can u tell me more about this Dr.
Does she have those characteristics that I am looking for?
Does she specialize in Bipolar?
How much does she charge?
Do u know if she takes new patients?
What is her phone #?
Thanks.
 
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Dr. Spitzer is excellent! She does specialize in bi-polar. I have been to so many Psychiatrists in my life and none were as good as this one. It's possible that part of the reason that she's so good for me as that she is Frum! Her offrice # is (516) 239-1641. She actualy helped me recently to get out of a psycotic episode and now I'm 85% better! She charges quite a bit but I'm not sure exactly how much since she sends the bill to my parents.


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Thanks for your response. I was allready treated by 2 frum psychiatrists before.Frum is not a warranty for good. Does she care a lot about patients? Is she accesable by phone if you have any questions (e. q. about meds)? Does she stay current on the research in bipolar ? I am looking to your response.
I wish u refuah shleima.
 
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Besides for being frum she is excellent and on the ball!


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Hi,
Your response does not give me the information that I asked u.
I would like to know answers to the questions that i asked u.

Also does anyone know of a medicine or anything else that will lift up depression in bipolar disorder with benign side effect profile? (I can’t tolerate dry mouth, and it is also hard to constantly feel like u are hungry.) I know an antidepressant is risky as it may push me into mania. I have tried lithium and it helped but its side effects are intolerable, so was Lamictal but it even didn’t help. Yosher koach to every one.


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Hi,

I think my doctor is excellent with meds, with narrowing down to just the right ones, the ones with maximum efficiency and minimum side effects. That's what he did for me. He took me off of Depakote and put me on Lamictal. I lost a bunch of weight as a result. (although that was not the only reason for the switch, he also hoped it would make me more animated, expressive)
I don't know whether he specialized in bipolar, I personally have schizoaffective, but there are many good doctors who focus on many illnesses and still do a great job with each. I see him in a clinic, so I'm sure he treats a variety of patient types, but I know that he also has a private practice. His name is Dr. M. Pilman, located in Brooklyn, NY.
You can find info about his private practice on the medicare site, by the list of medicare providers. www.medicare.gov , scroll down to ‘Find A Doctor’, or copy and paste the following link:
http://www.medicare.gov/Physician/Home.asp?bhcp=1

He is an excellent doctor, and I highly recommend him. He knows his meds really well. He helped me out a lot. You can tell him exactly what the problem is and he can pinpoint just the right meds. And if you have a hard time expressing the problem (I do), he is very intuitive, he is excellent with understanding people.

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Hello MR,
From all the thousands of possible docs u are suggested Dr.Pilman. If his name is Michael then he treated me. That is amazing. He couldn’t help me, but I know that I have refractory bipolar disorder. He is okay, but is relatively fresh from medical school, that is why he still works in a clinic. He actually stopped seeing me because he felt “confidant” enough to drop his Medicaid patients (as u well aware Medicaid compensation is not big) and graduate to the next class.
I really appreciate your concern and reply and I wish someone would give me the right referral. I wish u refua shleima so much.
 
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Hello Moshe,

Please call the Echo institute of health that I mentioned above. They will give you the right referal in your area and for your problem. That is what they do!

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Hi Moshe,

That is an interesting coincidence. I'm sorry to hear you are having a hard time finding the right doctor. I wish you the best of luck.

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if you're ever in the area, which you probably never will be, BUT if you ARE, i highly suggest dr. gruenberg, or gruenberg and Summers. they truly are expensive, but they are known for great results. as far as the insurance aspect, i'm not sure. do they do pro bono? i don't know. but i'm sure if you told them your situation, they might be able to help you out, or at least refer you to someone good they know that is perhaps in your price range and or area. ny is a pretty big, well-known, wide spread area. i'm sure they must know someone good there who might be able to help you out. remember: you want results. that is the goal. i know it sounds cheap, but money should be secondary to your health, and if you have it, great. but if you don't, someone shouldn't penalize you for it and withold treatment. i just think you should make a lot of calls if dr. gruenberg is not for you, nor someone he chooses from your area. just keep trying, never give up, and ultimately remember: you will find someone, and i bet you will. stick with it. i don't have his number right now, but i'll check if you want it for later.

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Hello Earnie,
I called Echo and asked for a psychiatrist. I was informed that they do not specialize in this field. And they certainly don’t know about such terms as bipolar, etc. to be able to help out. I am wondering what do you say about your doc? Why not recommend me to him?
I read that you went for the ECT. Did it help?

Hello Tors613,
I appreciate your recommendation, but I hope I will find someone in NYC metro area. NYC has probably 2 thousand psychiatrists. Some of them must be individuals who really care to help and know how too. I am not looking for a godal hador in psychiatry and who is also a “discount” doc.

I read on- line about Dr. Ivan Goldberg. He advertises himself extensively in many different places and in many different ways. He claims to be a pro and the best at treating refractory illnesses- bipolar, depression, etc. I want to know if someone met him to recommend him.
My depression main characteristic is the opposite of “flight of ideas”, that is slowed thinking, looking for the right words, inability to speak concretely, at regular speed, energetically. (Something similar to President George Bush speaking without a written paper) As a result I am socially isolated and cut off, can’t accomplish much; decrease in self-esteem. I would like to know if others experience depression in the same way.
 
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hello, moshe, i can totally relate. no one is perfect. but you ever have those days where you feel like "i'm as far from perfect as anyone can be"? we all have those days, believe it or not, even the best of us(who i am not.) what you must realize, is that although someone is "different", it doesn't mean they are worse or better than anyone else. just different. and that's okay. once you tell yourself this, reassure yourself of this, and believe this truly in your heart and practice thinking it every day, as i have learned to, you will be feeling much better, i guarantee it. now the medical side of it? i don't know the meds you are on, and i'm not a doctor. but really, you could try calling dr. alan gruenberg and ask him to refer you to a top, not so expensive meds doc (psychopharmacologist, to be specifically "correct") in the greater metro nyc area. dr. gruenberg, is, may i say, well known around the WORLD, yes, the WORLD to be a top doctor in the field on the eastern seaboard and perhaps among the best in the country. do i like him? not really. but he has a very calming voice, and i must say, he is a very good, methodical, and clearly inunciated (sp.) doctor with a top reputation for excellence. i really think you should give him a call. and, oh yeah, i checked. he's completely overbooked for like, ever, so you probably couldn't see him anyway, not just because of where he is in relation to you, but because he simply can't take your "case" because he simply has too many clients and he is simply too in demand, so to speak. and yes, moshe, we have all felt "down". what is important is to be able to lift yourself up out of the downness-- a very good trait to learn in life, in fact, one you will use over and over again, and learn to embrace yourself and the personality hashem has blessed you with-- no matter how different or same it is to someone else you know or may not know. ya know, we're all different for a reason: to be ourselves! and that's all fine and good and dandy. really. remember this, and life will improve greatly for you, i'm sure of it.


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Edited: 7/10/06 at 9:03 PM by ernie55B
 
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There is a frum organization specializing in mental health issues and referals. I'm sure they can help you find the right doctors. They are called Relief 718-431-9501.

I hope this helps
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Hello Torsalicious613,

I understand that your doc is a top one, but he is not relevant anyway because he is over booked. Also you yourself admit “do I like him? Not really.” So why should I go? Think about it. Take care.

Hello Ernie,
Please let me know if your doc specializes in Bipolar. How many hours of driving by car and public transportation to Woodmere from Brooklyn, NY? How much does he charge for the1st and a regular visits? You can private message it to me (I don’t know how to do it). Thank you.

Dear administration,
Earlier I received assistance from Relief in finding a doc, but unfortunately I wasn’t successful through them.
 
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Moshe- forgot to mention- if interested, call now! Next available appt. for new patients is in September
 
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It is so important to find the right psychiatrist!


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Thank you Earnie for your help.
Did you ever try Sam-e (it is a natural product).


Hi Ariel,
I was wondering where did you disappear from our forum. How are you feeling?
I wrote you a message above on your screen to which you still didn't reply!
 
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Moshe-
At Bikkur Cholim in Monsey, there is a psychiatrist named Dr. Price. I believe the clinic takes medicaid, and their number is 845-425-0887. If Monsey is too far to travel, perhaps he can make a referral in Brooklyn.
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okay, i didn't mean to infer my doc is bad. he just has a personality i'm not particularly compatible with. he can be very stubborn and rather egotistical. but he is a very good doctor, one reason why i think he may be egotistical. also, he is not overbooked, i checked. he always makes time for new consultations. i just think he is too far away for you. he told me that he can't legally suggest anyone to someone i don't really know well, like family or something. but he said if i look up some docs in the greater n.y.c. area, he might be able to tell me if he's heard of them or not. talk about making me work. i'm sorry, this is about you, the one looking for a psychiatrist, not me. i shouldn't be so in my head. i should remember i'm trying to help you, not just express my feelings about my doc! no matter how good or egotistical or stubborn he may be! i'll do some research, if you want me to. i honestly don't have that much else to do right now. it's summertime. school hasn't started just yet. good luck, i hope in the meantime, you find a few good candidates.

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How you feeling Earnie?
 
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how are you feeling, moshe?

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I agree that Relief Resources, the admin gave you the number is your best bet. You should ask for Rabbi Babad or leave
a message on his confidential voicemail. He will get back to you as he always gets back to me when i call. His extension number is 202. I was hospitalized aprox. 2 years ago for a manic episode of a severe post partum depression. He has been directing us and guiding us since then. He sent us to a very knowledgeable and experienced psychiatrist who I felt very comfortable with. Two weeks after I started going to her no one could tell I was on meds. I looked like any normal person on the street. Now that I was diagnosed with Bipolar he switched us to a top-nothched Bipolar Specialist. I trust him in every way possible. I know I am in good hands thanks to Rabbi Babad and thanks to all the people who are davening to Hashem for me (my parents and in-laws) to send the right Shaliach in the form of the right doctor. I used to say Tehilim all the time but ....I'll get there...
 
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Hi,
I would like to know what is the name of this top-notch doc. And how much does he charge?
 
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His name is Dr. Robert McMullen and he himself is on antidepressents so he really knows how to help his patients,he's been there.
 
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Oh I forgot to tell you.... the first visit is around $750 and the following visits are $275 but you get your moneys worth. You leave with a printout of the medicines he's putting you on and the reason or if he is decreasing a medicine he'll tell you the reason & have it printed out for you with his instructions, plus you'll start feeling good, isn't that worth all the money in the world?
 
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Another thing he specializes in Bipolar. Hatzlocha Rabah and Refuah Sheleimah!
 
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HI Molly P.
This reply is to u and to everyone else who may benefit.
I will tell it like it was.I was treated by robert Mcmullen for two years. I changed about 12-17 meds under his watch.He is very expirienced but did not help me because his goal was not to help me but to make money of my suffering from illness. We changed medicines without any reason or order without giving enought time for medicines to kick in.(Primarily because i could not tolerate side effects.)At the end i saw that he is of no help and I left him.During my 2 years under his watch he gradually but constantly was raising his fee.I was mostly disgusted with his attitude towards rushing like mad to make money.IN FACT I HEARD FROM A CURRENT PATIENT THAT HE CHARGES NOW $1000 TO FILL OUT A DISABILITY APPLICATION.(WHICH WILL BRING TO THAT PERSON ABOUT $700 A MONTH). ONLY A FEW YEARS AGO HE CHARGED ABOUT $200 FOR IT.(BY THE WAY HIS SECRETARY CHRISTINE FILLS IT OUT IN 15 MINUTES.) OTHER PSY DOCTORS DO IT AS A COURTACY FOR FREE.So u decide if he is a caring doctor. I say he is cruel.
He is expert in medicines and if someone has a lot of money and time they can try him out.
I am not surprised if such being is depressed.Money don't make him happy but if he felt compassion for his patients he would have been.I am curious how did u find out that he takes antidepressants.(his secretary also was on antideppressants.)
Again don't be swayed buy his computer print outs and computer generated priscriptions,etc.It is all done to catch new patients and again to raise his fee.
 
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Hi I am new to these boards and want to comment on the search for a doctor....for several years my husband, who is bipolar, was seeing a doctor who was considered "tops, the best", cost a fortune, and....he, our marriage, and our children were suffering terribly. But when you are seeing the "best" doctor and you are not seeing results, what do you do next? Your wife is afraid the situation is hopeless and she has one foot out the door. You are despairing....you have one choice - go see Dr. Second-best!

That's what we did. We changed doctors, started seeing a doctor who is not so famous and not so specializing....he changed my husbands medication and now, five years later, we go to him about twice a year just for blood work and checkup. He charges about $175 a visit...and my husband is stable and doing great!

I learned from our experiences that the best doctor is not necessarily the one with the high costs and fancy titles....you need a doctor whom you relate to, so that he can diagnose you correctly and zero in on your needs. Also important to have some therapy to work out any issues that have come up that are not resolved by medication. The doctor who will ultimately help you will be a doctor whom you feel comfortable with, who gives you the time of day, who respects you as a person and takes the time to explain what's going on....In my opinion, if you go to a doctor for some time and you don't see results, you need to change to a new doctor.

Wishing you Hatzlacha.

By the way, the doctor who was able to help my husband is Doctor Joshua Lamm.
 
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Dear Moshe; I am not swayed by your words bec. it seems to me like you wouldnt be satisfied with any doctor. It seems like you tried every doctor under the sun and no one is good enough for you. If you want to get better you have to admit that Hashem created you with.... just like some people have diebetes and some people are prone to high blood pressure some people have disorders -(I don't know what to call them) like me and you and we have to put our trust in the doctor (and Hashem of course) and not blame them and find fault in them. I do agree with Vini (do I have the name right) that going to a therapist can speed things up and get you better and off meds quicker.
 
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Vivi-
Well said.
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Moshe, I think that your concern in sharing your information is very commendable, and is definitely ahavas yisroel.

You are trying to find the right doctor; and using some of Molly P's words, I hope that you soon find a good doctor whom you can trust, and that it should be successful with Hashem's blessings.


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To Molly AND OTHERS,
I would be very glad if DR.Mcmullen helps u.I was not looking for faults in him. He definitely has some advantages: he is expert in medicines and is up to date with current medical research.
However, when u are suffering from a mental illness u need more than just a smart doctor, u also need a compassioned individual. We, sufferers, are more sensitive. Any one can come easily to the conclusion that he has no compassion at all.
If u call him up and speak to him he throws down the phone in the middle of your 2nd question. At the end of 30- minute session he runs out of his office like a bullet while u r left still sitting there(u have to understand him- that u pay for 30 minutes and not for 31.)Thus he is very abrupt. During entire sessions he is busy typing what u say so there is very little doctor-patient communication. Basically, all I said is that his primary concern in treating u or anybody else is your $275.Your improvement under him is only of importance as have u continue coming to him for treatment. I personally did not like to be treated as his money making object. So I do not think he justifies our “TRUST IN HIM” like u propose it when it is so clear what his intentions are.
Gemora says that best doctors go to gehenom.To me his place there is out of question.

So much about him.I agree completly with VIVI (and her experience proves it) that we don't need top,top doctor who will milk u out of every penny.But someone who has some experience and is pleasant to deal with.
 
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Dear Moshe
I presume that Dr Mcmullen might have had a good reason for hanging up on you and walking out on you. In your state, you might have disreguarded his feelings (doctors have feelings too, you know) and he doesn't have to put up with your behavior if you are attacking him or not being nice to him. Number 2 i am not going to him bec. he is tops in the field.My husband wanted me to go to someone else who is tops in the field who charges double, I think approx. $400 a session and Rabbi Babad convinced my husband that we can go to second best and just as good-Dr. Mcmullen. I got the impression that the first choice that my husband wanted is more snuck up...
 
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Hello Molly,
Your assumption that Mcmullen acts abruptly to his patients (me in this case) due to improper treatment of him is simply incorrect. He is simply not a mentch but a white-collar gangster.
I remember how he prescribed both Sonata and Ambien for sleep together for the 2 years. Both are addictive substances which lose their benefit after 3 sequential nights. At that time I did not know that. He did not care to continue prescribing these meds even thought he must have known of their limitation/uselessness for my chronic insomnia. This is called malpractice.
However, u don’t have to agree with me. If u like him and think he is gold u can buy him flowers and a thank u postcard at each visit when u pay him $275.
I hope he helps u.
 
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it's a shame that you look at him like that. In my opinion he is just trying his best to help his patients but I'm not going to say anymore bec. i see you won't be convinced...you're so mad at him and whatever i say you'll have something to reply...to negate what i'm saying
 
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it's a shame that you look at him like that. In my opinion he is just trying his best to help his patients but I'm not going to say anymore bec. i see you won't be convinced...you're so mad at him and whatever i say you'll have something to reply...to negate what i'm saying




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I KNOW A DOCTOR HE'S AT 101 E 80 TH ST HIS NAME I ROBERT GROSSMAN.HIS NO. IS 212-848 9858 HE HAS BEEN TREATING ME FOR TWO YEARS NICE GUY HIS RATES ARE FAIR COMPARED TO MOST.I AM BIPOLAR I'VE BEEN HOSPITALIZED TWICE BEFORE SEEING HIM.I CAME OUT OF THE HOSPITAL SICKER THAN I WENT IN HE CHANGED MY MEDS AND B"H I'M DOING BETTER IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS AND I HAVE'NT BEEN HOSPITALIZED SINCE.HE TREATS MY SON ALSO AND B"H HE' ALSO MUCH IMPROVED.THERE ARE NO MIRACLE WORKERS YOU HAVE HELP YOURSELF TOO.


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MAZ54
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11/8/06 11:30 PM
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I FORGOT TO MENTION DR.GROSSMAN IS AN ASSITANT PROFFSER AT MT.SINAI HOSPITAL. GOOD LUCK.


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11/12/06 11:45 PM
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Hi,

Please do not post in ALL CAPS. It is hard to read and it also comes thru as if you are SCREAMING!

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9/15/08 1:56 PM
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It's about 2 years since I replied to Moshe about Dr. Mcmullen, maybe i was too quick to judge Moshe. I'm still with Dr. Mcmullen and for me he's great but he is very busy and sometimes will be too abrubt and won't give you enough time. And he might not be good for everyone. In a way looking for a doctor is like looking for a Shidduch, you have to click so I hope by now you found someone you like and are happy with. Sorry if I hurt your feelings, Moshe. please forgive me if I hurt you in any way.
 
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11/26/08 5:56 PM
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Hi Molly,
I glad to hear from u for 2 reasons:
1 is that Mcmulllen has been of some benefit to you.that you are feeling better.
2 is that you partially admitted to the statements that i made about him. Namely that he is an ubrupt and dosn't give his patients enought(even nominally) attention that they need.As someone who has seen different doctors from likes of Mcmullen who takes antidepressants himself(AND HE IS SUPPOSE TO heal U FROM DEPRESSION) to a normal and more concerned doctor who actually talks to you instead of just typing in his computer, I would greatly recommend TO EVERYONE that instead of chasing after a top and big doctor find someone who acts in a humane manner and has 5 or more years of experience. That is all. Just like in marriage not the riches man or the most buetiful woman make the best spose. we all Know too many such unhappy couples or divorced people.
ALSO I HAVE FOUND THAT THERAPY IS VERY IMPORTANT. HERE TOO SAME RULE WILL APPLY AS TO WHO IS GOOD.MANY PEOPLE THINK TODAY THAT IT IS JUST A CHEMICAL INBALANCE AND THERE IS NOT MUCH THEY CAN DO TO FEEL BETTER. BUT IT IS MORE THAN THAT. THAT IS WHY IT IS IMPORTANT TO FIND A FRUM THERAPIST WHO WILL WORK WITH.
 
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11/30/08 9:47 PM
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I agree 100%
 
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11/30/08 10:39 PM
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i use a good dr. his name is alan manevitz.he's careing and very jewish he's not frum but i belive he comes from a frum backround.he seems very caring and he'll answer your call in case of an emergency he's not money hungry,he doesn't tell me when to come back i go when i feel like going,and he still refills my prescriptions.if you don't follow his suggestions he can't help you,he belives in excersize it gets your natural body chemicals to help you,although he does prescibe medication.he's on 60 sutton place in ny.his number is 212 751 5072.you can look up his web site alanmanivitz.com good luck. he's been in practice about 20 yrs.


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5/24/11 12:10 AM
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I am still looking for a good psychiatrist for depression.
My depression is treatment resistant, over ten years of medication and changing 7 doctors.
I need someone who sincearly wants to help a patient(as opposed to make money) and has at least 10 years of experience. Preferably who is not expensive.

Vivian- what is that doctor's name?
 
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