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Created On 6/19/14 7:10 PM
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mouse
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and started to cry. Now I feel like garbage. I really shouldn't have. Not fair to her. Feeling very out of control. I'm upset I guess.


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6/19/14 8:55 PM
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Why shouldn't you have?
 
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What I mean to say is, if you needed to cry, why would it not be fair to your therapist?
 
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Not fair to her because it was supposed to be a brief phone session to update on insurance issue. But then she asked how I was doing and the tears started. Not fair to her. She is't being paid for phone time to hear me cry.


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You gave her a chance to do a mitzvah.

You are doing more for her than she is doing for you.
 
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Munkster,
If your therapist asks how you're doing, the expectation is that you will give an honest answer and that she is opening herself up to the possibility that you will need something from her....
Is this your new therapist?
sending empathy...
 
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No, I'm Trying....New therapist said I should go back to old therapist. She also gave me tons of helplful ideas including to get a mental health advocate and report the company to the banking and insurance comission for not giving adequat notification. She also said she'd tell the insurance company she can't see me. I like new therapist but know i should stay with my old one (as does the new therapist know.) I'm just too depressed to do anything right now. New therapist asked if I was safe and I lied. Needed to be able to go home. So depressed I feel like I'll never get out of it.


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( I'm sorry it's so hard for you right now. I wish I can take it away...
 
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Thank you, I'm Trying, for being there. At least you're here. Nothing will take away the pain I'm in right now, I'm afraid. (Maybe a cooperative insurance company, but I'm really in deep.)


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Hi Munkster.... I still have very sporadic access to internet - so sorry I haven't been more supportive.

That, "I don't want to do anything but collapse" , depressed funk is so hard.... it is perfectly OK for you to let off some tears and pressure to your therapist over the phone - she asked!

You are worthy of being taken care of and it is OK to use phone support as long as you don't keep her on the phone for an hour .... it is actually her responsibility (not yours) to set the limit and even charge for phone time if she feels it is a necessity. She obviously did not feel that was the case, which means you are making yourself "unimportant" and reacting from a shame based response - NO, You are a strong child of Hashem in an excruciating situation - You deserve to have someone give you support - there is no shame in needing the help. Try to take the steps necessary for taking care of yourself - one little thing at a time - maybe with a checklist..... to do what is needed to get back to your old T

Meanwhile - maybe doing some self-help reading. One book that helped me immensely was "Coping with Trauma-Related Dissociation: Skills Training for Patients and Therapists" By Suzette Boon , Kathy Steele and ....(forgot the other) It is intended to be used in a group setting or hand-in-hand with a therapist - but I have used it independently - the skills have helped me be more independent and proactive in taking care of myself, and utilizing other's help.

Just a suggestion - thinking of you and davening that you find a speedy solution to your therapy impasse. Take care of yourself even and especially when others aren't available!
 
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Hi Tbear, and thank you for responding even though I KNOW you're having a REALLY rough time . I'll probably take your advice and do the checklist and some reading. Thank you for the suggestion.
Another aspect of things that aren't too good is my daughter is seeing a therapist (who wasn't effected by the change) and I really feel the way things are going for me is effecting my daughter. I feel so guilty. On the one hand I think I should give my daughter's therapist a heads up, on the other hand I don't want her to know just how bad things are. Although I seem on the outside to be ok, anyone in the family knows to some degree something isn't right. I'm not getting meals done on time or at all in some cases and I have very little energy and stamina. We went to a park on Friday and I barely made it through the gate and I was winded. It was more than just being fat and lazy. It was truly tired - emotionally and physically. Eventually I got it together and we looked at the gardens for about 1.5 hrs but not without a lot of struggle. I don't want my whole summer to be like this and I'm very anxious . Furthermore, I'm showing some very obvious signs of possible diabetes (or just really bad prediabetes.) I gathered up the guts to ask for a new prescription for bloodwork, but I didn't pick it up yet. I'm scared to get the bbloodwork done when I don't have much support but not to get it done is equally bad. . So conflicted.


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6/25/14 11:39 AM
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Hi Munkster so sorry you're down :-(
Can you give her therapist an accurate general picture without going into all the details so that she'll know what she's dealing with and won't know too much?

I hope things start improving real soon!!! Hang in there!
 
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I don't know, MoMo...I'll try, that's for sure.


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