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lookinforhelp
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Does anyone around here suffer from insomnia?
I figured I could put it into this forum since most cases of insomnia are highly associated with depression and anxiety.
I haven't been able to sleep in nearly 4 weeks now. I admit to being unusually stressed and busy, but I can shut off my lights at 1:00am and toss and turn till 5, 6, or even sometimes till 7:00am; a mere hour before I have to wake up. no matter what I do I just can't sleep!! The funny thing is though, when I wake up I'm actually pretty wide awake. I feel like I've had at least 6 hours of rest when in actuality I haven't slept for more than 2 or 3! Is that normal?
 
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1/12/05 12:25 AM
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No. It is not normal. I used to experience this too. Baruch Hashem its been tears since I've had that. I take clonopin to calm me down and it helps me sleep. I am fine now. I get at least 6 hours of sleep a night. You can get better too!
You really need to get in touch with a psychologist. Private message me the doctors name and number and your number, you don't need to give me your name and I'll get someone in Israel to call the doctor for you or I'll call him or her myself. Your a yid. We care about you. Lets get you help already. What do you say?
by the way, how do you spend your days? Do you work?
 
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It's not that I can't sleep because I'm tense (or at least I don't think so), I just lie in bed thinking 24/7!
I really, really don't want to take hypnotics and sedatives b/c I worked in a nursing home and have seen the horrible side effects. I'd rather not sleep than deal with that! Anti-depressants is one thing, but psychotropics is another!!
I just started school. B"H, it's nice to get out of the house a little and it keeps me busy with homework and all.
 
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>Anti-depressants is one thing, but psychotropics is another!!
I don't want to convince you not to take anti depressants but anti depresants are psychotropics. And theres nothing wrong with that. Klonopin, a benzodiazipam anti anxiety medication saved my life! my mom takes them and when I had my one manic episode ten years ago the psychiatrist told her over the phone to give me some. (He gave her the dose...) It held me over untill the next night when they took me to see him in person. But my moms in the health profession so it was different than the normal case.
You need to get to a doctor to deal with your anxiety as soon as possible. i don't know what you saw in the hospital but I don't look like that.
 
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Whilst i agree that medication is not the magic cure for all mental and emotional ailments, sometimes, it can be beneficial to take something for a short period of time, to help you sleep as when we are sleep deprived, we are even less able to deal with daily stress. You sound like you have a lot on your mind and I only wish you would take the plunge and talk to someone. You are young and have your whole life ahead of you, don't waste these precious years as you will never get them back. We are all here to offer our support
 
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I took some over the counter sleeping pill a few nights ago and I fell asleep pretty quickly. However, about an hour after I had fallen asleep I woke up crying with the worst headache I have ever endured in my entire life!!


Edited: 1/17/05 at 5:47 PM by toomuch?
 
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I treated someone who reported having insomnia for years. He finally took himself a sleep disorders clinic and was diagnosed with a sleep disorder. He is now being treated with a breathing machine (your hooked up to it while you sleep) - this is being widely researched now, and seems to be quite effective. Seek a specialist in sleep disorders.
 
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11/21/05 7:23 PM
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My insomnia is not consistent. It just comes and goes every about twice a year for 4-6 weeks.

It's usually at times when I'm starting new things and I'm very stressed. I allow myself to take Tylenol PM once a week if I have slept less than 6 hours that whole week. It's good to sleep once in a while...
 
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Perhaps it is time to consider counselling to learn alternative relaxation and stress management and reduction techniques. Many of these techniques can be learned in a short period of time, and they work!!!
Contact RELIEF for referrals...
 
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12/13/05 12:53 PM
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i had insomnia, rather insomniatic tendencies once. it sucked-- sorry-- stinked-- can i say suck on this network? if i can't, let me know! i won't do it again, if i can't. my dad doesn't like when i use that word-- but the rest of the world-- i'm not sure. i take 1 mg of ativan, now. it helps me sleep, and i've gotten used to it, so it doesn't make me groggy in the morning. thank g-d! i am also thankful that i am not addicted to the ativan, but it is helping me, versus having to take more and more to get the same result. iasked my doc about the definition of dependence or addiction, and thats' what he said. believe me, when you get enough meds pumped in to you, you can sleep lioke a baby.. and it doesn't hurt you that much, i don't believe. at least not too much. that's what i've come to learn. taking meds for sleep even if they are unnatural is better than not sleeping! besides, i need my sleep. i can ch'vs get manic if i don't. although i go to sleep late now, b/c of school, sometimes i get 5-7 hours of sleep-- not because i'm not tired-- but because i have so much work. and i'm not manic right now, at least i think i'm not. nah, i'm not. pheew. thank g-d! okay, slooow dowwwn

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sometimes i just curl up in bed and read, or write in my ournal, then fall asleep and wrap my6slf up in my blankets and turn my fan on next to my bed while my space heater is on a little bit (like now in the winter) . i usually fall right asleep. at leat that's been my experience now. i think i'm soo tiired from not sleeping in soo long, that i just fall asleep anyway. this has helped me, maybe it can help someone else. good shabbos all, i have to get back to work here at aish. bye!

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gad
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1/29/06 3:22 AM
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Reading stories of Tzadikim at bedtime helps.


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i agree

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dini
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3/7/06 12:53 PM
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Youre feeling rested because you actually rested in be d the whole night even though you didnt sleep.
 
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I also suffer from insomnia.. I don't even go into bed, I don't like my bed, I'm never comfortable and when I do sleep even if only for 2-3 hours, both sides of my body ache terribly.. I can't sleep on my back, I sleep leaning on my hand, more in a sitting position... I'm more comfortable to sleep on a chair then in a bed..
s/times I can be up all night and the next night not be tired till 4 am.
I usually fall asleep at the computer for about 2 hours, then I'm up and about again. I do feel fatigued during the day but I never fell asleep at work
I just did a sleep study and I have sleep apnea. I'll be getting my machine in a few weeks. waking up frequently can be one of the symptoms of sleep apnea.

 
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If someone has made the decision to use medication, which is a subject by itself, I would like to mention the drug "Seroquel" which is what puts me to sleep, after trying all kinds of things. This is not for everyone, has possible side
effects, is an antipsycotic, and other nice things. However, it is (probably) not as addictive as benzodiazepines. It is also
very expensive. A psychiatrist who specializes in pharmacotheraphy is probably the best suited to advise on this.
 
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I highly recommend Lunesta. It's much less addictive than all the other "oldfashioned" types of sleeping pills. You don't wake up with a hangover, and you don't build up resistance to it over time. The biggest problem is that it's really expensive, and there is no generic available in the US right now. I'm not sure what the availablility of it is in other parts of the world.

 
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yes. i suffer from it. i work 8 hrs a day, walk home (which takes up another hour) take care of my dog- and nephews. i still am wide awake at night. i get AT THE MOST 6 hours....thats if im lucky.usually its 4 hours
 
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gad
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Are you able to function ok?
 
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Have you considered trying EFT? If you contact me on actualitycounselling@googlemail.com, I can provide you with some more information.
 
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My normal bedtime is now 3:00 in the morning. (though there have been times when I could not fall asleep until 6:00 in the morning). I take sleeping pills every once in a while- they are supposed to knock you out in 15 minutes but I have grown totally immune to them. I am the lightest sleeper in the house. When my mom is leaving for a delivery, I wake up to the sound of her approaching the stairs. When she comes home- even though we live in a house- I wake up to the sound of her openeing the door.
 
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