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Created On 6/11/07 1:33 PM
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yaldatova613
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6/11/07 1:33 PM
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Hi Dr Lynn
I dont' know if this a question for you. If it's not, please let me know who you think would know more about this or where I can find such info.

I've been on opiates for pain management for 4 years (under medical supervision). It's a steady dose, meaning I take it 6 times a day, every day. Now, baruch hashem, there's been some change and I may be able to wean the dose, hopefully until I'll only be taking it 2-3 times a week.
I've been reading about it and I'm very nervous about the withdrawl. Some people think that the methadone/saboxone route is the only way to go, and others would never touch that stuff with a ten foot pole and recommend 'cold turkey' withdrawl.
What's your opinion on the matter and what can I do to make it easier for myself?

Thanks.
YaldaTova
 
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gad
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6/14/07 12:23 AM
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Perhaps besides asking Dr. Lynn you may also want to ask Dr. Price.
Getting a lot of expert advice can often lead to a solution.

Hope the withdrawl is successful, with good health.
 
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yaldatova613
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6/20/07 11:52 AM
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Is something wrong with Dr. Lynn? Why haven't I gotten an answer? I'm not so familiar with posting and getting responses. All I've done so far is post my quesion and sit back and wait for an answer. Is there anything else that I'm supposed to do?
 
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6/21/07 1:56 PM
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I think that Dr. Lynn is probably not able to answer these days, or else he surely would have. I hope all is well with him.

I hope that you get the advice that you need, and that your withdrawl goes well.
 
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Dr. Lynn
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Sorry I did not get back to you sooner. If I do not respond to a public posting, please feel free to send me a private message via the icon on the right corner. I do not check the entire mental health section everyday. It would be good to get Dr. Price's opinion, but I can also share my experience. I have seen people successfull wean off opiates, via meth and not. The catch with meth is that the programs often do NOT wean people off.
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yaldatova613
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7/3/07 5:44 PM
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Do you mean to say that with meth I'd stay on it forever? What would be the point in that? Isn't meth a kind of opiate?I thought the purpose of weaning of it is because being on opiates is dangerous. Why switch from one to the other? I'm a little confused. I thought that the meth is kind of a bridge to go from opiate to nothing without the withdrawl side effects. Am i wrong?
 
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gad
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He said "often." So it sounds to me like Dr. Lynn is saying that, based on his experience, it could work, but often does not.
 
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yaldatova613
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7/4/07 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by: Dr. Lynn
I have seen people successfull wean off opiates, via meth and not.


You say via meth and not. What other options are available? Is there another way to do it?
 
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7/6/07 6:01 PM
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Hello YT613,

I was on opiates for pain relief for many years as well. I had to stop them a few weeks ago, due to another medical condition.
The key to stopping them is to do it VERY SLOWLY. You cut back the dosage a small amount for a week,
then the following week another small cutback for a week and so on until you are off them.

B"H I have had no withdrawal symptoms doing it this way.

Refuah shelayma to you!

Ernie
 
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gad
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Ernie, it's nice to hear from you. Hope all is well.
 
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yaldatova613
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i've posted this both on dr lynn and dr price cuz i'm not sure where it belongs. sorry.

okay...so i finally worked up the courage to deal with this and my doc referred me to an 'addiction specialist' who's supposed to be tops in this field and, when my gi doc spoke to him he said he could definitely help me and he's done work with people like me before. sounds great, right?
but here's the catch: i saw him once for a three hour initial consult and he charged $900 (yes, that's nine hundred american dollars!) cash; he doesn't take any insurance. He did give me the full three hours but i thought that $900 was a lot. he took the history and did the whole mental status screening (count backwards from 100 by 7s...) and we talked about the different routes that i can take to get off this stuff. he told me the four options he thought i had and said that the final decision would be mine. AND each time i need to see him in the future will be $300 (for a 45 minute visit).
my three questions are: 1- is this type of pricing normal and i've never been to a psychiatrist so i just don't know? 2- how am i supposed to make the decision? i don't feel like i know enough, but i don't either think i can afford to talk to him about this stuff because it's a lot of money. and 3- (i think this is really the crux of my question) which is more important when it comes to something like withdrawal - a doc who has lots of experience and knows this stuff very well or someone who is more affordable but doesn't have as much experience in this particular area?
if anyone has any input i'd appreciate it.
 
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Dr. Lynn, Psy.D.
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Unfortunately, this is the usual pricing for psychiatrists these days if you want to pay out of your pocket. If you have health insurance, perhaps you can find a doctor near you, which would be a fraction of the cost. Your insurance company can furnish you with a list of doctors. If you do not have medical insurance, sometimes public/community hospitals and clinics treat people for free or a nominal cost. I think the doctor should be able to recommend a course of action after outlining the possible courses of treatment. As for experience, I would ask the doctor if he/she has experience with your problem prior to making the first appointment.
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