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Created On 3/29/14 8:52 PM
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tikvah
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3/29/14 8:52 PM
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I dont want to be frum anymore.

shabbos, yom tov, mikvah. all make me so so so resentful.

so what do i do?
i decide i dont want to be frum so i dont feel guilty?

or i pretend to know gd is understanding of what i can and cant keep,but noone knows for sure
i wont go to hell for watching tv on shabbos or having relations w/o mikva. (no kids.)

Please please advise. i tried calling rav nyman and can never get thru.


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Dr. Price MD
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3/29/14 10:37 PM
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Pretend to know G-d is understanding. 2 potential guiding principals: lo lishma may become lishma, and naaseh v'nishma. Do what you can for now under the circumstances with the hope that G-d understands and will help alleviate your guilt and suffering now and in the future so that it will eventually become easier.

Speak with Rav Naiman when you can.

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tikvah
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3/30/14 12:49 AM
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im sorry to sound disrespectful< but how is "lo lishma" and "nase vnishma" supposed to make me feel less guilty??
now i just feel like a> force myself to keep it cuz itll come??? and b> do it even if u dont understand???
wow now i just feel super guilty> is that how you intended me to feel? is that what you meant?
i do not understand your reply>


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Dr. Price MD
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Torah itself says Chai Bahem, live by the law, not die by the law. Do what you can under the circumstances of your present life without adding guilt.. We all pray that G-d will improve your situation through his infinite mercy. Most important is to maintain the loving relationship with G-d not the laws themselves when they are driving you out of this world. Rabbi Naiman should be very helpful here.

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I'mTrying
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3/30/14 12:17 PM
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I'm with tikvah over here. I just want to throw it all away at this point.
 
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tikvah
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3/31/14 1:09 PM
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Rabbi Nyman is un reachable. Two of his numbers are out of order, the other noone answers or calls back. besides im scared to tell such a frum rabbi that i cant be frum anymore.


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channafofanna
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Im with you guys. The thing is we want to throw EVERYTHING away, not just religion.. not sure what im getting at with that, but its not necessarily judiasms fault, cuz we want to throw everything in the whole world away...

Im SURE hes heard it before!!! Besides, you obviously do want to be frum, no matter how deep down, otherwise you would be totally off and wouldnt be asking these questions. Youre just in a lot of pain, and he probably will be able to sense that...
 
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