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TOPIC TITLE: destiny overriding (medicinal) effort
Created On 2/28/06 11:43 PM
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snowflake
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2/28/06 11:43 PM
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Hi Rabbi Doctor Price -just wondering what your perspective is on poor impulse control versus the discipline expected from a torah observant person .How can g-d expect discipline when he was the one who created the person with deficiencys.How can g-d expect a person to be happy if he created serotinin issues and chemical imbalances.how can g-d expect focus if he created the unfocused.At what point does destiny override medicinal effort.for some its so much harder being observant and stuff the discipline and all the laws ......... .


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Dr. Price MD
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I replied to you earlier but I do not think it went through so here goes again.
Excellent question. The Torah and its laws presume that one is in a healthy, "normal" state. We have a long and extensive Rabbinic tradition which allows for the application of the general universal principles to the individual non-normative case. If you can identify a psychologically in-touch Rabbi/Rebbe/Rebbetzin they may be able to show you how Torah applies to your unique situation. You can also take some comfort in that we are not all judged by the same standard in the heavenly court. We are all given different natures, personalities, chemistries, tendencies which may some Mitzvot easy to fulfill and others nearly impossible and thus each of our challenges in life are intensly personal. I have to be the best ideal "I" that I can be given my abilities, sublimating my yetzer into productive activities. A person who is blood-thirsty by nature could be a mass murderer or a renowed vascular surgeon; like the brilliant sociopathic theif in the movie "Catch Me if You Can" who tuned his life around to catch counterfeiters for the government. A person with ADHD, untreated, may not have the patience to sit in Yeshiva for 15 hours a day but would be ideal to guard the village from attack with his rapid shifts in attending to novel stimuli. We have universal principles but implicit in the Rabbinic tradition we do not use a one size fits all approach. Medication can assist people in fitting into their own unique niche in life and Torah.

Rabbi Price, M.D.
 
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snowflake
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Appreciate the brilliant logic and informative reasoning.Do you ever give like lectures/seminars in the NYC area ?


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Dr. Price MD
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Look for my musical healing C. D. entitled, R'havya to be released Lag B'Omer. I should be on tour at a shul near you after then.

Rabbi Price, M.D.
 
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moshe
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3/11/06 10:03 PM
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Hello Dr.Price,
My question is similar to the above.It is a basic tenet of our faith that Hashem created us to be happy in this world and is given us our lives to enjoy his kindness and constant giving.And yet we see that He causes just the exact opposite- like illnesses Depression and Bipolar. So it is a contradiction. How do u resolve it? And also there is a statement that it is mitzva gedoila lios b'simcha tomid.So how can these people who are afflicted be able to fulfill it. It seems rather like a cruel joke.Thanks.
 
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Dr. Price MD
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There can be an upside to illnesses such as Bipolar. The intellectual insights, spirituality, artistic expression, self-confidence, and productivity that such an individual may experience can be close to the enlightenment of prophecy. The achievements that some our greatest fellow human beings have made could only have been fulfilled in such a state. The movie "Proof" depicts this where Anthony Hopkins makes some of the greatest discoveries in the history of theoretical mathematics during his manic episodes where he stays up all night learning and thinking with boundless energy and flashes of insight. Many people could learn how to channel this G-d given energy into amazing things once they learn in therapy how to harness their power. Similiarly, the gratitude and appreciation of life one experiences having emerged from a unipolar depression has motivated many to devote their lives to helping others in need.

Rabbi Price, M.D.
 
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