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His8hm, I'm interested to know if it turns out to be the result of a physical condition. Keep me posted if you don't mind.

 
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will be another month yet before he wants to retest me- and the way its gone so far im not too hopeful of some miracle cure, but today was a pretty good day all things considered, its prob good to keep a journal as i find its so easy to gloss over the good times and think it was only bad.
I had root canal today, another possible symptom of high calcium- what interests me is ive never drunk milk, i thought that would mean i was low on calcium.
i am also curious about the white in nails, because i did take zinc for that a while back and it made no difference
 
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Hi. Glad to hear today was better. I know what you mean about glossing over the good days. I think most of us tend to do that.

Elevated serum calcium doesn't necessarily mean you have too much of it. On the contrary, it means you probably don't have enough of it because your body is leeching calcium from you teeth and bones and depositing it into your bloodstream for whatever reason.

White spots on the nails usually indicates a mineral deficiency - your IBS could do that to you, or excess sugar consumption. In more serious cases it can indicate trouble with your kidneys (too much calcium can affect your kidneys).
 
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another fairly good day, b"h
the question with all these things is just what to do, what do the things mean, i guess u need to trust your doctor but also if u take supplements that dont inhibit medication, which i take, its not harmful
for example, dr price recommended inositol and so far for me its ok, not to bad side effects, sleep well on it, its not too expensive
 
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That's encouraging.

Good question. Not sure I know the answer. I'm still in the process of figuring it all out. It's mostly trial and error for me. Meds didn't do anything for me, and a holistic approach helped somewhat, but I still tend to have pretty bad seasons.

Inositol seems to be the new miracle supplement these days. I've also seen a difference with it but never took the full 18g. I find that it causes diarrhea. Are you okay with the full dose?
 
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Pretty much I am ok with two teaspoons twice a day. my stomach has never been great ever.wouldn't call it a miracle but like anything it may be a useful add on. I think we always need to trial and error and focus on today not yesterday or tomorrow.
Holistic is the way for sure
Do you mean by seasons the weather or say stressful times like yomim nor aim
How many kids u got btw
 
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You're right about focusing on today. I struggle with that a lot.

Seasons, as in stressful times. Although, even without stress I sometimes don't do well. Weather affects me very badly too. Do you see any difference with weathers?

I've got two kids. My son will be nine soon, and my daughter will be six in a few days. How about you?
 
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yes, i always disliked September to November and felt a psychological joy when in my head January came and it was like turning over a new page and I could see Spring.
However, its getting less and less each year, because Im just relieved ive had a week off OCD symptoms so really being a bit down by weather is a piece of cake compared to OCD! but yeh growing up i really disliked the dark- maybe a sunlamp could help you, or taking Vitamin D- I rarely get to shul for schacharis when its dark either, i almost hibernate!
I have 3 kids ,7, 5 and 2, hard work but compared to OCD nothing is that hard! it does make it harder sometimes shabbos can be really tough for me, i find i want to be on my own sometimes and ofcourse you rarely get that at home!
 
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Hey how was your yk
 
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Hi. Sorry I took so long to respond. I've been stressed out with Yom Tov and all. Yom Kippur was okay, considering that I rolled out of bed at 4:00 in the afternoon. Fasting usually affects my state of mind for a couple of days. Was yours okay?

A little bit of moodiness is definitely better than OCD. I tend to obsess when I'm moody, though. I've heard of the lightbox, but with a mood disorder there's a risk of mania. I'll look into it.

Do you get to enjoy your kids in your good times at least? I think mine are a blessing, but still find it exceedingly hard to raise them.

 
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For sure I enjoy my kids
They r are hard work but which kids aren't
I love them all in different ways I think they each occupy different parts of my heart a girl and two boys
Incredibly challenging but I miss them when I am not with them and always think about them
How was your succos
Is ur husband understanding
I'm doing great btw
 
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Hey how u doing
 
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hi,

sorry for not responding earlier, I didn't come on here in a while.

Yomim Tovim were tough. Glad it's over, and trying to settle down now.

How was it for you?

Over Yom Tov I came across an article in the Ami where Rabbi Taub writes something in the name of a Dr. Hodaya - a psychiatrist in the Washington D.C. area, who has a holistic approach to mental disorders, which might be if interest to you. He wrote the following:

"Inflammation in the body - caused by activation of the immune system and/or suppressed production of stress hormones - results in changes in brain chemistry. These changes in brain chemistry can result in OCD or depression. Much of the immune system (as much as 60%) is around the gastrointestinal tract; therefore, infections of the intestinal tract (e.g., yeast infections, parasites, chronic bacterial infections), or even food allergies can contribute to the development of OCD. Other infections in the body (e.g., chronic sinus infections, strep infection) are also known to precipitate OCD."

It's interesting, because I'm prone to inflammation, and in the past I had allergies/intolerances, gastrointestinal problems, and also psoriasis (inflammation of the skin).Text
 
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also tough, v intense, 3 day yom tov , i find it a bit much, 4 weeks of it, mentally v tough for me

i appreciate those medical comments, i am back at doctors tommorow and for blood tests, the thing is like anything unless u find these things, who knows if u can pinpoint it

Psorosasis sounds horrid, ive had some minor skin issues but nothing major, my stomach is bad when i eat wheat but i cant stop
i am an addict of sorts to sugar chocholate or whatever i can get my hands on, but i can go weeks without it, in short my willpower is either brilliant or awful
hows ur kids, such hard work here!b"h sundays can be harder than work
do u work

 
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addictions, compulsions, sometimes i cant tell....
 
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I think with any kind of mental/emotional disorder it's normal to have it tougher Yom Tov season.

addict sounds familiar. I used to binge like crazy in the past, I also purged it, though.

Sundays are hard, being home with the kids. How do you entertain them?

I'm working on my degree now. I'll be finishing soon and hope to find work then. What kind of work do you do?
 
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i went to doctor today and hes gone a bit cooler on the parathyroid thing which is odd as he brought it up, still he retested calcium and iron so we shall see those results
i work in financial services, what u might call chapter 11, but i have degrees galore and professional exams from years back!
problem is trying to make a good enough living on all that
i am going to ask the dr on here about a good vitamin for stress, i am heading to bed soon i feel it so much
sundays-kids had parties etc, but they have school in the morning
 
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That's impressive that you managed to get so many degrees despite the ocd. Do you enjoy your job?

I can relate to the stress very well. It's crippling. I have days when I already feel stressed out the minute I wake up. It's like my body is rebelling against all that anxiety and intensity I put it through. I'm trying acupuncture and herbs for it now.
 
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I suppose my job is good, but i wish i was earning more and was more fulfilled, saying that the pressure is fairly low and they are quite flexible and i get parking on site so i cant complain on the other hand i am in a comfort zone and not progressing my career enough
what is your degree in?
r u FFB
In USA people tend to be more open on mental health, its more hidden here,but getting better
 
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Feeling fulfilled is important. You're still young, so hopefully a better opportunity will present itself.

My degree is in psychology, but I'll probably end up looking for work in a different field.

I'm FFB. How about you?

There's still plenty of stigma about mental health here too. I still can't share much with friends and family if I don't want to be judged, and definitely not with employers.
 
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BT but my wife is ffb
I just bought a vitamin b complex so will see how that goes in terms of stress
Inositol helps for OCD sp always open to try new things
How is acupuncture going
Medical care Is very expensive there no?
Free here but if u want good care you pay more which I sometimes do
 
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Wow. At what age did you become frum? Care to share your story? I find it really inspiring.

B complex can be very helpful for stress. Hope you see a difference. Super critical stress advantage by New Chapter was also very helpful to me in the past.

I'm not seeing any dramatic results with acupuncture yet, but the practitioner claims that it may take a good few sessions to see results. The guy has also given me Chinese herbs to drink, which interestingly enough, really makes a difference. I'm sleeping like a human being for the first time in ages, and am not as terribly overwhelmed and stressed out as I was a couple of weeks ago. I find that these interventions only last if I also get rid of the source of stress, which is really hard to do. That's why I continuously crash.

Medical care is very expensive over here if you don't have insurance. But even if you do have insurance, specialists are usually not covered and if you want a good doctor in any field you usually have to pay out of pocket. There was a psychiatrist I saw in the past who charged $350 per half hour session, and from what I hear, that's not even considered outrageous. Except for a few quacks, I've found alternative practitioners much more helpful over the years. They are almost never covered by insurance, but they are also much cheaper.
 
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Perhaps for another time-not that interesting as I grew up traditional I suppose

Interesting u try different methods I also enjoy that trying diff things
I've got really bad restlessness at the moment esp at my desk at work it's not a compulsion as such but I get so bored I feel I need to check my email all the time and shake my legs drives me nuts I feel I have way too much energy
Hope the vitamin b comes tomorrow
 
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Do you think the restlessness could be a side-effect of medication? Hope you can find relief.
 
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it could well be... i begun with vitamin b complex this morning so too early too tell on that front
i always had huge problems concentrating and focusing, yet somehow managed to pass exams, i did like 20 mins study huge breaks etc but still did ok
at work its prob obvious i have ocd, people have even called it me jokingly, and i am always on my phone checking email, compulsively etc

do u study from home or in college?

i feel fine about winter actually, have u thought of vitamin d

do ur friend know ur issues, can anyone tell? most people i know dont really know, they might have a feeling i have quirks but its not obvious to them
 
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I study from home. It's amazing that you were able to do it. I also have a really hard time concentrating and it really stresses me out. That's why it's taking me so long to finish my degree.

I've been taking vitamin d for a while at the recommendation of some doctor I think. Do you find it helpful?

My friends usually can't tell. I've learned to hide it well. I also overcame the compulsions, and the obsessions are much easier to hide. In the past, my family knew because lots of my obsessions/compulsions either directly involved them, or were glaringly obvious. For instance, one of my compulsions as a teenager was to kiss each mezuza in the house over and over. Another obsession involved lice, and I checked everyone's hair on a daily basis. My siblings still crack up every time we get together and reminisce. I've mostly overcome ocd now. I struggle more with bipolar related moodiness/anxiety/stress etc.

Does it bother you that people pick up on your quirks?


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I recently came across an interesting article regarding OCD and probiotics. See http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/21/4595712/gut-feelings-the-future-of-psychiatry-may-be-inside-your-stomach
 
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Thanks for the link. Interesting article.

I've read many similar articles which point to food intolerances/allergies, candida, and other gastrointestinal disturbances as the root of mental disorders. I think it's true for many people, and I hope doctors will take it into account in the future.
 
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Thanks for this
It's on my to do list after I've taken vitamin b
Are probiotics just those yoghurt style drinks or are they tablets as well
 
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I read a New York Times article about some type of therapy for OCD. I forgot what it was
 
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The following is a link to a very recent article (written Oct. 11) about probiotics and mental health: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/how-bacteria-in-your-gut-affect-your-mental-health-1.1990948?cmp=rss
 
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Hi Mel
Thanks for your input
I'm not eating well right now but with inositol vitamin b seem stable in terms of OCD
Do u have OCD
Interesting to note your last article quotes a lady called Torah!
 
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